Personally I'm a mouse clicker. I'm sure I could be more efficient with a keyboard but with a bit of practice and getting to know the UI (especially when I can customise it) I can keep up with the keyboard players just fine most of the time.
It would be good if most of the UI could be used from a keyboard though as that way people like me who traditionally use the mouse could slowly start using the keyboard more and more as long as the keys are completely customisable.
It would also be cool if the keyboard bindings were saved in a text file so you could share you configuration with other players or download other players configuration files so you don't have to set it all up again when you want to make a drastic change.
You could even have different profiles that you swap between with different key bindings in each profile depending on what you were doing in the game. That way players would have the ultimate ability to control the game the way that they want.
No need for keyboard skills when you got one of THESE
Just need yourself a functional thumb on that mouse hand. Between shift, alt, ctrl, and combinations of the three, you got 72 keys under that thumb.
ZennExile said:No need for keyboard skills when you got one of THESE
Just need yourself a functional thumb on that mouse hand. Between shift, alt, ctrl, and combinations of the three, you got 72 keys under that thumb.
Alas. I have a slightly deformed thumb. That isn't going to work for me :(.
I use both..old habit. :) A ton of bindings...where's the skill? :P I use both..click and turn..numpad ..page up page down..never learned to load everything up so I can push one button. Oh and numlock for run speed. And I'm no newbie. :) I wonder how all those bindings would work in pvp...what if it doesn't do what you thought it would do? I'll stick with my method...needs a little more strategy and skill, but I think it still works for me. :) hehehe Oh and the old tab target..no error there.
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Krixus said:Mouse is for newbs unless you have one set up with a ton of bindings. Moving your cursor across the screen to select a spell or action is slower and way more prone to error than hitting a key.
I wouldn't say using a mouse is for a newb. With practice and a UI set up for your needs you can be pretty quick with it. Back in EQ you had a limit on the number of actions you could perform at any given time based on spell casting / spell gem refresh rate / ability refresh time etc so using a mouse didn't cause too many issues.
I know most of the time when playing my necro or ranger I already had my mouse in position for the next ability before the spell gem refreshed in EQ either when I was soloing or in a group so I don't see how I could have gone any faster even if I was using my keyboard.
Great question. Definitely keyboard. Mouse is way too slow/inaccurate. As a healer with the Naga, I do use the programmable buttons on the side to select group members, and then use the keyboard for everything else. So I guess the mouse is in some ways just an extension of my keyboard haha. But to actually move the mouse around?... only to adjust the camera. Clicking is so old fashioned :P
combination of both depending on the task at hand and anything alse going on.
and mouse almost exclusively for movement, with a few minor exceptions.
Well I use wasd and mouse for movment of char/camera to be able to sneakpeek and so on, mouse/keyboard buttons to lunch everyting else as target heal , emergency interrupt... and launch my powers but i still need to be able to set my UI as i whant it to keep track on all things. This game will be intresting as VR is aiming for a "dumb/minimal" UI wonder what this will be for a raid/groupe setup UI wize, so no macros for target launch maybe.. will be intressting to see.
Cromulent said:Krixus said:Mouse is for newbs unless you have one set up with a ton of bindings. Moving your cursor across the screen to select a spell or action is slower and way more prone to error than hitting a key.
I wouldn't say using a mouse is for a newb. With practice and a UI set up for your needs you can be pretty quick with it. Back in EQ you had a limit on the number of actions you could perform at any given time based on spell casting / spell gem refresh rate / ability refresh time etc so using a mouse didn't cause too many issues.
I know most of the time when playing my necro or ranger I already had my mouse in position for the next ability before the spell gem refreshed in EQ either when I was soloing or in a group so I don't see how I could have gone any faster even if I was using my keyboard.
I was kinda joking, but not really. You could tell someone was new to EQ, for example, or less "hardcore" if they clicked on spell gems or clicked to target.
Krixus said:Cromulent said:Krixus said:Mouse is for newbs unless you have one set up with a ton of bindings. Moving your cursor across the screen to select a spell or action is slower and way more prone to error than hitting a key.
I wouldn't say using a mouse is for a newb. With practice and a UI set up for your needs you can be pretty quick with it. Back in EQ you had a limit on the number of actions you could perform at any given time based on spell casting / spell gem refresh rate / ability refresh time etc so using a mouse didn't cause too many issues.
I know most of the time when playing my necro or ranger I already had my mouse in position for the next ability before the spell gem refreshed in EQ either when I was soloing or in a group so I don't see how I could have gone any faster even if I was using my keyboard.
I was kinda joking, but not really. You could tell someone was new to EQ, for example, or less "hardcore" if they clicked on spell gems or clicked to target.
I guess the problem for me when using the keyboard was because when I started playing EQ I couldn't touch type so to use the keyboard to do anything I had to look away from the screen, find the key and then press it and then look back at the screen. In a busy situation this took way too much time.
The funny thing was it was because of EQ that I learned to touch type. When you are pulling and trying to chat at the same time I had to learn how to type without looking away from the screen so at least my EverQuest addiction lead to something useful :). I never really got out of the habit of using my mouse though.
It has been so long since I played an MMO properly that I just remember using my mouse. Maybe with Pantheon I'll make a real effort to use the keyboard instead. If everyone says it is better I am inclined to believe them :).
Im with Bazgrim on this one. I function basically the same.
These days, I tend to play with one hand on the keyboard and one hand on the mouse. For stuff I use all the time, I'll set it up front on a hotbar for a quick keypress. For stuff that's more situational or that I don't use as often, I'll typically just mouse to it. For movement I use WASD and mouselook. I tend to like keybinds for targeting like F1-F8, etc. Don't make me click on targets in combat :)
Click for days. While it is the inferior way to play, I can't be asked to rewrite almost two decades of muscle memory.
Edit: Well, I'd say it's more of a hybrid of the two. It's not possible to be a purely click player. In PC FPS and games like ESO it is necessary to use keybinds.
I mostly use mouse for UI interactions, looking around the game with cameras and inventory things. I use keybindings for specific functions like auto target, cycle targets, auto-attack, auto-run and camping/logging out. I know what works for me but I am an odd ball and not everyone likes the way I do thigs. I normally have my UI setup with as much viewing space as possible with important information as small as I can still read it as well as skills/abilities set as small as I can.
