Yeah the more time and more hands on Ryzen it seems to be doing better by the day. Joker seemed to have had some impressive gaming numbers even on release. By PC buying time we should be golden.
I'll likely end up with the Fractal Design R5 when it comes time to pull the trigger. While I think an RGB showcase would be pretty sweet, the more I consider it the more a silent PC is appealing to me as it is in my room...and I like it dark when I sleep (I don't shut my PC down very often).