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gertdoggy said:Multi-headed dragons that each head has different attacks/defenses and HP so that you need to kill each head individually.
Also, if you're adding in random spawning lootable treasure chest... mimics. It would be great for people who like to run ahead a loot stuff before others even know it's there.
I think it would be interesting to have creatures underground that can be stumbled upon or discovered if you were to have a Ranger in the group.
Well, if the environment and world are key...what about a rock or plant (or really anything) that looked like any one of the normal rocks or plants (or again, anything), yet was some sort of mimic predator type thing. Either randomly, or by some sort of trigger, it would enter predator mode, come out of hiding and attack the party. Maybe those with high perception or meditate could uncover them early, giving the party an advantage.
Radeon said:Kamikaze creatures with very low HP and a huge threat radius..
I dont know if anyone remembers them, but i loved wights from Myth - The fallen lords. They were a bit like as described above, would be cool if we had mobs that kind of lurk around, wait till a group is engaged and then try to come in while your not aware and... boom do a ton of AoE damage if your caught napping. They also had a great lil AI script which meant they would not approach ranged fighters in Myth who were clued to them. Obviously a MMO and its player characters are working differently regarding this kind of thing, but maybe they could have an AI which see's them not approach when players are looking at them and or only approach groups when players are fighting other monsters.
Cant find a good video on wights creating havok.. but they were a memorable addition to the game! (especially when they were hiding underwater waiting for units to cross the bridges in multiplayer)
Aayden said: Obviously a demigorgon lmao
Indeed! Can we just pull out the entire D&D booklet and start picking things randomly? I remember reading through the books when I was younger and getting lost in fantasy land. How cool would it be to see a Coliseum in the world of Terminus where adventurers could battle armies of exotic creatures for sport? Here is an old idea I shared awhile back that I might put some more thought into:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/5217/coliseum/view/page/1
A big giant inside a cave with bones of it's victims spread around in the floor. Maybe even go that far as when you defeat the giant inside the cave, necromancer of somekind would appear and ressurect the giant as undead with some backup from the dead bodies around? Would be cool and challenging fight imo.
I do hope that Pantheon won't make Orcs and other 'evils' into some twee, almost cute, misunderstood version of the despicable, disgusting creatures high fantasy used to contain. I prefer my 'monsters' to be 'monsters'.
This is a game, and I don't want to have an internal philosophical debate over how I feel about killing the foes I'm killing.
There is always a choice in which 'faction' you back, of course, but please let's make it clear what those factions represent.
I suppose there is *some* fun to be had in challenging the stereotypical moral alignments... but modern MMORPGs have often taken that way too far so as to make nothing evil/good/lawful/chaotic.
As for what creatures I specifically want to see, of course Orc-kin (I guess we are talking pig-people of what ever mythos you prefer) are awesome foes we love to hate. Goblins, because even orcs need someone to kick. Goblins just kick each other I guess!
Dragons of course! And their lizardman dragon-kin. Elemental-breathed, spell-casting, super-intelligent, flying lizards rule! (literally, quite often).
I love lots of undead, from skeletons, through vampires, up to Liches. Ghosts, ghouls, zombies, etc. The more the merrier. Kind of.
Brain-biters and melters are always fun! Beholders, Mind-Flayers and Psionics that annoyingly defy Magic Resistence. There is nothing more frightening than your own party turned against you!...
Mischievious fairy-kin are fun. Pixies, brownies, wisps, etc are satisfying to squash, especially if they squeak.
Elementals and golems are a staple monster for good reason.
Giants! It's great to hack at their varyingly flavoured ankles until they "tiiiimbeeeeer!" fall
Demons and Devils! Angels and cherubs! There's lots of scope for varying levels and circles of holy and unholy creatures as you ascend or decend toward heaven and hell. I know it's perhaps a very western mythos, but other cultures have their equivalent and most dieties have hierarchies of weird and wonderful minions and representatives. I always find it fascinating to think your character, as a mere mortal, can challenge the divine. At least their henchmen, anyway!
Dinosaurs! It's an old trope, but still fun to discover a 'hidden valley' where behemoth reptiles haven't evolved for a million years.
I would love to see guards / faction leaders with real loot tables. Not trying to push for more PvP, I just think they stand around and don't do much except for fill space and crush trains. If someone is willing to destroy their faction for some xp / loot then that is cool. I think it adds depth to the game. I do understand giving bankers / certain NPC's non-agro status so that area doesn't lose efficacy.
Really what I would like to see is a more diverse acquatic monster base. Not just in water only zones but in ponds, lakes, oceans. I feel like most MMOs only have fish and sharks in them. Some have sand based mobs on land but act like a crab can't go into the water. I also love major bosses in different enviroments. Lets see a Ocean epic monster, or one that you have to have flight to fight.
Baldo said:Really what I would like to see is a more diverse acquatic monster base. Not just in water only zones but in ponds, lakes, oceans. I feel like most MMOs only have fish and sharks in them. Some have sand based mobs on land but act like a crab can't go into the water. I also love major bosses in different enviroments. Lets see a Ocean epic monster, or one that you have to have flight to fight.
Agreed! The water should be VERY trecherous. So many people hate underwater areas but I LOVE them. I also like a lot of other ideas here like the mimics for loot chests or plants or rocks in the area. Monsters burrowed underground that pop up when you aren't expecting it but maybe like a ranger can detect them. And someone talked about bad guys having a reason to be bad. I agree with that too and that's why I always liked the viscous plant-grown orcs ideas. They are grown from pods in a fungus that only grows on the corpses of their enemies. This makes war just a part of their life cycle which is pretty scarey and there is no way to negotiate with that kind of enemy.
I like monsters with damage reduction and other defensive powers/environments that require specific planning and tools to defeat. Challenges like needing a monster to be in a light spell or effected by a burn to prevent the monster from regenerating. Constantly needing to burn short term buff items to even be able to stay in a zone, at least without suffering major negatives, is also another tool for variation. Call it entering a negative energy plane, you need to sacrifice a specially made talisman to hold off the negative effects of the plane. For every 30 seconds in the plane without the item your effective level and skill caps go down by one level.
These types of things will help make it so that there are no true best in slot items and that the highest reward areas also require a significant expenditure to access even for maxed out end game characters.
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oneADseven said:Aayden said: Obviously a demigorgon lmaoIndeed! Can we just pull out the entire D&D booklet and start picking things randomly? I remember reading through the books when I was younger and getting lost in fantasy land. How cool would it be to see a Coliseum in the world of Terminus where adventurers could battle armies of exotic creatures for sport? Here is an old idea I shared awhile back that I might put some more thought into:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/5217/coliseum/view/page/1
I really like the idea of the collesium for controlled pve and pvp purposes. Could end up being a fun mini game system with leader boards and maybe some fun, collesium related rewards or titles.
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gertdoggy said:Multi-headed dragons that each head has different attacks/defenses and HP so that you need to kill each head individually.
Also, if you're adding in random spawning lootable treasure chest... mimics. It would be great for people who like to run ahead a loot stuff before others even know it's there.
I think it would be interesting to have creatures underground that can be stumbled upon or discovered if you were to have a Ranger in the group.
I like both of these ideas, Mimics have always had a certain appeal to me. It might be cool to have a rogue "scout" treasure to make sure its the real deal.
I don't know about the rest of ya'll, but one of the very first RPG's I played as a kid was Dragon Warrior 1.
Anyone remember 'Slimes'? Or the very rare 'Metal Slime'?
Let's get some slimes.
But on a more serious note, I want more flying creatures. When scouting an overland area, or simply just running through, it would add another dynamic when we have to not only keep our eyes peeled to the ground, but also look to the sky for any dive-bombing Gryffins or Wyverns. And not those floating Griffin's in EQ that were essentially landlocked. I want these suckers to be way up high, so often the first hint you get is its shadow as it comes at you.
For me I always always ALWAYS loved the zone in EQ called Unrest. Just starting off the basic ghouls and skeletons to the more horrifying hags and even deeper still the freaky monsters and wombats in the basement.
Not to metion Castle mistmoore....
SO for me, Undead, Zombies, Liches, Horrible flesh animations, Vampire lords .. who knows a strange fungus or plague that causes abnormal behavior
...Think I should main a paladin
