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Alexander
- 316 posts
November 16, 2023 2:08 AM PST

lotuss79 said:
Savanja said:

Sweety said: Seems those of us that were wise enough to constantly complaining were right. /bow https://www.pantheonmmo.com/pantheon-returns-to-the-mmorpg-format/
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Orrr, now stick with me here....

We took feedback from key, knowledgeable sources and used that to make a decision.

Wow, snark and condescension might not be the best posture from VR right now.

Yeah. Making the point that the decision wasn't very based on forum feedback? Questionable response from a CM toward a poster who is celebrating the results of the public outcry against this bizarre new direction VR took. You're celebrating wrong Sweety, you may give a "Hip hip!" and wait for someone else's "Hooray!" but nothing more.
This post was edited by Alexander at November 16, 2023 2:13 AM PST
chenzeme
- 902 posts
November 16, 2023 2:35 AM PST

DarkAkuma, well said. Couldn't agree more.
Ruinar
- 252 posts
November 16, 2023 10:02 AM PST

I have assumed that feedback from VIPs who actually experienced 247 and statistics from people playing the mode such as player counts over time may have informed their decision as much if not more than the outcry. I've suspected that they realized that they probably weren't going to get what they wanted from 247 and player interest in the mode dropped rapidly over time. They may have also realized that in order to maintain player interest it was going to require far more than the 5%-10% development that they originally targeted.

It's funny to hear people who said "no one wanted this game" then turn around and say that their complaints are what changed VR's minds. Doesn't it make more sense that you were right in the first place and people generally didn't want the game and it wasn't going to give them what they need long term?

I think stating displeasure with the direction and delineating the reasons why was important and had an effect but it's a little arrogant to assume that it was the primary reason they changed gears. If that was the case, I think they would change the graphics too (although reception has been somewhat better for the graphics). I'm hoping that we can get answers to these questions during the Q&A.
This post was edited by Ruinar at November 16, 2023 10:03 AM PST
Chimerical
- 174 posts
November 16, 2023 10:24 AM PST

Couldn't be the actions/feedback of the pre-alpha testers, feedback from investors. Nope just non-stop bitching. Sure, why not. Also, fwiw, I expressed my displeasure, and moved on. Still don't like the new art style...
justdrop
- 194 posts
November 16, 2023 10:25 AM PST

Ruinar said:
(although reception has been somewhat better for the graphics)

I agree but I think it's a combination of feedback, a lack of willing testers and the steady pushback from the community. It's not one, it's all. The reason you stated is why the art won't be reverted.
Llydon
- 16 posts
November 16, 2023 3:02 PM PST

Savanja said:

Sweety said: Seems those of us that were wise enough to constantly complaining were right. /bow https://www.pantheonmmo.com/pantheon-returns-to-the-mmorpg-format/
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Orrr, now stick with me here....

We took feedback from key, knowledgeable sources and used that to make a decision.

"We understand that for many of you, we have damaged your trust. That’s on us. For those who will give us the opportunity to rebuild that trust, we thank you. For those who are not yet ready to believe in us or the project again, we understand, and hope we can earn back your support in the future.

– The Visionary Realms team"

Are you telling me that this was a PR lie along with the rest of the post?
This post was edited by Llydon at November 16, 2023 3:04 PM PST
Ranarius
- 1284 posts
November 17, 2023 9:40 AM PST

Those two things are not exclusive. VR didn't drop 247 in hopes that it would regain trust. They dropped it because it wasn't doing everything they wanted it to do, in addition to that they seem to be making efforts to earn back trust by improving communications. (That's how I took it all anyway).