PA1 is internal speak for Pre-alpha, there will only be one Pre-alpha but we will use PA1, PA2 etc. to describe phases of development so I wouldn't worry too much about the terminology we use, just know that there will be Pre-alpha to help us set up for Alpha which will, in turn, help us set up for Beta.
Alpha and Beta will be rather long to help us do what we need to do to bring the game in line with release expectations.
Hunk said: Based on Cohh's smile when that subject came up on stream, I would honestly be shocked if it wasn't just around the corner.
Cohh doesn't know anything more than you guys, he just smiles like that because he is genuinely excited about the game and our progress and like you folks, he can't wait for the game to release :)
Jacasta said:Well "very soon" wouldn't be soon (in my opinion) if it weren't this year. Not to mention that in the Q&A, they say that pre-alpha is 2017.
The Q&A is always subject to change, though. I think we should manage our expectations about pre-alpha, notwithstanding the obvious progress VR has made. Maybe it will start this year, but if it doesn't, I for one would like to see folks just take that in stride. The streams this year should inspire confidence that our patience will be rewarded.
Gnog said:Jacasta said:Well "very soon" wouldn't be soon (in my opinion) if it weren't this year. Not to mention that in the Q&A, they say that pre-alpha is 2017.
The Q&A is always subject to change, though. I think we should manage our expectations about pre-alpha, notwithstanding the obvious progress VR has made. Maybe it will start this year, but if it doesn't, I for one would like to see folks just take that in stride. The streams this year should inspire confidence that our patience will be rewarded.
It's for this reason any time that we hear words like "soon", "soon TM", or "very soon" that we pull out our handy dandy guide to "A Brief History of Time According to Sapience". This one written by one of the guys on the LOTRO team a while back and I absolutely love this thing.
https://www.lotro.com/en/content/brief-history-time-according-sapience
Durp said:Would Kilsin even tell us if it wasn't this year?
I would definitely tell you guys if it was delayed again for a reasonable amount of time but at this stage, everything is on track :)
Kratuk said:Gnog said:Jacasta said:Well "very soon" wouldn't be soon (in my opinion) if it weren't this year. Not to mention that in the Q&A, they say that pre-alpha is 2017.
The Q&A is always subject to change, though. I think we should manage our expectations about pre-alpha, notwithstanding the obvious progress VR has made. Maybe it will start this year, but if it doesn't, I for one would like to see folks just take that in stride. The streams this year should inspire confidence that our patience will be rewarded.
It's for this reason any time that we hear words like "soon", "soon TM", or "very soon" that we pull out our handy dandy guide to "A Brief History of Time According to Sapience". This one written by one of the guys on the LOTRO team a while back and I absolutely love this thing.
https://www.lotro.com/en/content/brief-history-time-according-sapience
lmao xD That's great
Also see Valve Time © :)
Anyway, I just hope there is still some time left so I can upgrade my pledge to alpha at least...
Kilsin said:Alpha and Beta will be rather long to help us do what we need to do to bring the game in line with release expectations.
Does this mean that you're previous estimation of pre alpha only lasting a "couple months" still stands? With longer alpha/beta phases to really find/fix/complete the game?
Enitzu said:Kilsin said:Alpha and Beta will be rather long to help us do what we need to do to bring the game in line with release expectations.Does this mean that you're previous estimation of pre alpha only lasting a "couple months" still stands? With longer alpha/beta phases to really find/fix/complete the game?
We don;t have a timeframe for PA1 or Alpha/Beta, but PA1 is to help us set the game and servers up for large amounts of people and to help crush and game-breaking bugs that would affect large amounts of people, so however long it takes to get a stable build running minus game breaking bugs is how long Pre-Alpha will last, it may be only a month it may be longer but we won't know until we get in and test.
What we do know is we want a long Alpha/Beta period to make sure we comprehensively test the game so we can push out a relatively bug-free and smooth experience for the games' official launch.
Kratuk said:Gnog said:Jacasta said:Well "very soon" wouldn't be soon (in my opinion) if it weren't this year. Not to mention that in the Q&A, they say that pre-alpha is 2017.
The Q&A is always subject to change, though. I think we should manage our expectations about pre-alpha, notwithstanding the obvious progress VR has made. Maybe it will start this year, but if it doesn't, I for one would like to see folks just take that in stride. The streams this year should inspire confidence that our patience will be rewarded.
It's for this reason any time that we hear words like "soon", "soon TM", or "very soon" that we pull out our handy dandy guide to "A Brief History of Time According to Sapience". This one written by one of the guys on the LOTRO team a while back and I absolutely love this thing.
https://www.lotro.com/en/content/brief-history-time-according-sapience
Sapience was awesome :D
Kilsin said:Hunk said: Based on Cohh's smile when that subject came up on stream, I would honestly be shocked if it wasn't just around the corner.Cohh doesn't know anything more than you guys, he just smiles like that because he is genuinely excited about the game and our progress and like you folks, he can't wait for the game to release :)
I love how Cohh gets geniunely excited in your streams. I know I do too seeing them! I'm gonna be streaming and making vids as soon as we are allowed, but I sha'n't be showing my ugly mug ;)
Kilsin said:
Alpha and Beta will be rather long to help us do what we need to do to bring the game in line with release expectations.
Not to be a forum lawyer, but this clearly implies that pre-alpha is expected to be less than "rather long". If the earlier hope of testing taking a year proves to be on the mark, release in 2018 is quite consistant with the above quote.
Kilsin said:Enitzu said:Kilsin said:Alpha and Beta will be rather long to help us do what we need to do to bring the game in line with release expectations.Does this mean that you're previous estimation of pre alpha only lasting a "couple months" still stands? With longer alpha/beta phases to really find/fix/complete the game?
We don;t have a timeframe for PA1 or Alpha/Beta, but PA1 is to help us set the game and servers up for large amounts of people and to help crush and game-breaking bugs that would affect large amounts of people, so however long it takes to get a stable build running minus game breaking bugs is how long Pre-Alpha will last, it may be only a month it may be longer but we won't know until we get in and test.
What we do know is we want a long Alpha/Beta period to make sure we comprehensively test the game so we can push out a relatively bug-free and smooth experience for the games' official launch.
This is information that i knew, but still enjoy re-reading. Hopefully we see alpha around february!