Hey guys!
While reading over some posts about the LFG system I thought of an interesting way to handle this using a light-weight structure.
How to Vote:
Using the proven "Like" or "Dislike" structure from social media we can allow players to vote "Thumbs Up" or "Thumbs Down" on a player by selecting them and clicking the appropriate button in the target window. I believe this will also tie in wonderfully with the player driven Karma system that has been talked about when regarding KSing and such. Players will only be allowed to vote on each person the encounter once within a set time frame.
Why have this system?
People are always looking for ways to control the situation and get immediate feedback on complaints. This system would alliviate the stress of many upset users as they can simply thumbs down someone that is causing them strife. While the thumbs down may not have any visual affect (or does it!?) the player will rest easy knowing they have just made a little harder for the offending player interact with parts of the world and community. This would also cut down on the number of petitions needing answering and let the devs and other focus on the development and improvement of the game.
How Thumbs Up affect you:
How Thumbs Down affect you:
What does all this mean for the player?
The various combinations of thumbs up and thumbs down could align the person to be good, neutral, evil, lawful, or chaotic. For example; having 1000 thumbs up and only 10 thumbs down may show you to be a very honorable and kind player who cares about the well-being and opinions of those around him (Good), while having 500 thumbs up and 500 thumbs down may show that you seem to do some good but also do heartless or cruel things often (Chaotic). These factions could inherently allow the players to create guilds, groups, ect. of like alignments (leading to guild wars in the future? maybe?). If a player wishes to be evil all they has to do is be evil. If a player wants to be good they just have to be good. There are countless possibilities opened by allowing the players to control the faction of other players.
Decay:
To manage the outrageous number of votes going through due to the huge player base, there are a couple ways this system can be limited to allow recovery or redemption.
There is obviously way more to this system (the specifics) than people care to read. If you have any suggestions about this and how we could turn it into something workable in Pantheon please dont hesitate to reply!
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3134/in-game-reputation-system
This type of system has already been discussed and there are some STRONG feelings on either side. Good luck if you care to revisit this thread. :)
Eh, mark me in the camp against it. I'd prefer this type of thing to not be present, it's bad enough every site on the internet is begging for likes/upvotes. Whenever there is community rankings, it's an invitation for manipulation. Many times you might find yourself in a group of dicks or a friend group of trolls that give you thumbs down for no good reason, and playing your class well is somewhat subjective. Few people take responsibility for group wipes etc and people having a bad day tend to play the blame game, healer didn't do his job or enchanter sucked at mez, even when it was the accusor who broke mez and walked around the corner chaining in an add.
Ainadak said:https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3134/in-game-reputation-system
This type of system has already been discussed and there are some STRONG feelings on either side. Good luck if you care to revisit this thread. :)
Ah thanks Ainadak I didn't see that thread. I see this has discussed in great detail. There are so many pros and cons to consider.
"WTB upvotes 5 gp each"
... and you know people would totally do it too. Press a button and get 5 gold essentially for free? Instantly undermines the integrity of the system. It's one thing if it was nothing more than a rough gauge of whether or not someone is a troll. But if it actually has a direct affect on in-game prices, NPC faction, etc... no way.
I stand by my original suggestion of "SHOW ME THE CHARFAX!"... a VR-run system that allows the players to view a read-only history of a character showing when that toon was created and only certain notable events such as suspensions, bans, name changes, server changes, tournament wins, etc. Not a popularity contest. Just a pure chronological record of important facts.
I mean, I see the attraction on some level, but I also see a huge vector for abuse, not to mention a fine way to introduce a means of discrimination (aka GearScore lite). I just feel like this kind of system would cause so much of a burden in dev time trying to prevent abuse that it could hold up other, game features that may encourage more social play.
I could see it being part of a third party website though.
Thumbs up/down would allow other players to shift my alignment ? that makes me a sad fluffy :'-(
Fingers crossed with open world dungeons we can finally drop groupfinder
Never should other players have influence over the price vendors charge for someone
It is a nono,me no likyyy :-(
Ainadak said:https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3134/in-game-reputation-system
This type of system has already been discussed and there are some STRONG feelings on either side. Good luck if you care to revisit this thread. :)
Thank you Ainadak :)
I will go ahead and close this thread now, please use the search function prior to creating a new thread as more often than not you will find it has already been discussed.
We are not considering any kind of system where players vote or judge/rate each other, you will just have to use the add friend/block/mute/report features and your good old trusty notebook next to your PC or notepad++ on your PC to write down the names of people you like and dislike.