i just read this article in Kotaku and i couldnt agree more. they use FFXI and FFXIV as examples here but its the same feel i get nowadays.
http://kotaku.com/final-fantasy-xi-was-so-challenging-it-brought-people-1785114506?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
