There are a lot of posts and discussions. As a result, it can be difficult to shift through. What responses do people like and agree with? Which ones do they not like? It would be cool if we could get a thumbs up or down, or add polls to our posts so we know what percentage of the community agrees with the post.
philo said:These forums had a vote up/vote down feature that was removed on purpose.
That's actually really interesting, I didn't know that...I only just signed up about 2 years ago and I know it wasn't on there then either. I'm curious as to why it was taken out. It's not like this is a public forum, so no one could create alt accounts freely and mess with numbers on the vote system. I would have to say this is the perfect place for such a thing as everyone here has to pay for the account they are on. Does anyone know why it was removed? Or does anyone know if VR put up a reason for the removal?
As for the OP, I would have to definitely agree that having a voting system for posts or even a like or favorite system for posts that you liked or even that you didn't like would be good here. Even with adding polls, it would be interesting to have. Almost every sight I know, and they aren't private by the way, has something like it and they are actually a useful feature to have. Spellcheck would be nice too instead of having to install other apps and features to your computer for that purpose.
OCastitatisLilium said:That's actually really interesting, I didn't know that...I only just signed up about 2 years ago and I know it wasn't on there then either. I'm curious as to why it was taken out. It's not like this is a public forum, so no one could create alt accounts freely and mess with numbers on the vote system. I would have to say this is the perfect place for such a thing as everyone here has to pay for the account they are on. Does anyone know why it was removed? Or does anyone know if VR put up a reason for the removal?
As for the OP, I would have to definitely agree that having a voting system for posts or even a like or favorite system for posts that you liked or even that you didn't like would be good here. Even with adding polls, it would be interesting to have. Almost every sight I know, and they aren't private by the way, has something like it and they are actually a useful feature to have. Spellcheck would be nice too instead of having to install other apps and features to your computer for that purpose.
Here is a quote:
Kilsin said: We had coloured names ranked by pledge tiers, like buttons, polls, groups, trophy/achievement systems, video/media upload section the lot but most of it was either ignored and unused or maniplulated/abused for points which lead to very poor quality content, posts, and arguements, it has been much better since we removed those systems... For what it's worth, removing the like button has actually shown an increase in interaction and engagement, since people actually reply with a post if they like something to agree with it or thank the person for making it instead of just pushing a like button and moving on and I think with this community and everyone wanting to get back to basics and old school socialisation that this is a better fit for us removing that button which proved to be correct.
philo said:Here is a quote:
Kilsin said: We had coloured names ranked by pledge tiers, like buttons, polls, groups, trophy/achievement systems, video/media upload section the lot but most of it was either ignored and unused or maniplulated/abused for points which lead to very poor quality content, posts, and arguements, it has been much better since we removed those systems... For what it's worth, removing the like button has actually shown an increase in interaction and engagement, since people actually reply with a post if they like something to agree with it or thank the person for making it instead of just pushing a like button and moving on and I think with this community and everyone wanting to get back to basics and old school socialisation that this is a better fit for us removing that button which proved to be correct.
That...that just seems like a REALLY lazy excuse to me...How was a voting system manipulated if you have to pay to be on the forums here? For the "just pushing a like button and moving on", the old saying comes to mind "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" Same with being positive, if yuou have nothing to add to a topic, then don't say anything to take away from said topic. If peopel were abusing it for points and whatever, why not just take away the points and nothing else. I'm still trying to figure out how the systems were being abused and how they discouraged socialization. Every forum I have been on has these, minus the points and they still have either heated debates or massive posts about thoughts and theories with critical discussion. This just seems so...I don't know...a very stupid reason. Hell, even on my crochet forum we still have massive discussions as well as this system in place and it's a WAY bigger community than here...and I don't have to pay to be apart of it.
Sorry, I'm not directing it at you, mainly just very leery about the answer...and I honestly don't believe it. I know that's not your fault, so please don't take it personally, It's just very odd to me is all; especially considering you have to pay...what, 15-20$ to be on the forums alone? It just seems...disingenuous and it feels like it's not true...but for what reason I don't know..though thank you for finding the quote. Was that in a thread somewhere or was that in a newsletter? I'm curious to see the rest of it lol.
OCastitatisLilium said:Was that in a thread somewhere or was that in a newsletter? I'm curious to see the rest of it lol.
I pulled that quote from the thread below...which was just the first one I found that mentioned it.
This thread is quite a bit more recent than when the forum had those features. This thread was started a year or more after those features were removed. I know there was discussion about the features when they were removed but I didn't want to spend the time digging them up...this is from much later.
http://pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4462/forum-reputation-and-titles/view/post_id/72613
Raidan said: Similar to how people brag about post counts,
This is a microcosm of that old system. I still look negatively upon people who post welcome hundreds of times in the intro threads in order to boost their post count. It is better off that it is left to spam posting "welcome" and not a more in depth system that people can manipulate further.
philo said:OCastitatisLilium said:Was that in a thread somewhere or was that in a newsletter? I'm curious to see the rest of it lol.
I pulled that quote from the thread below...which was just the first one I found that mentioned it.
This thread is quite a bit more recent than when the forum had those features. This thread was started a year or more after those features were removed. I know there was discussion about the features when they were removed but I didn't want to spend the time digging them up...this is from much later.
http://pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4462/forum-reputation-and-titles/view/post_id/72613
I don't blame you for not wanting to dig lol. Thanks for the link!
OCastitatisLilium said:philo said:Here is a quote:
Kilsin said: We had coloured names ranked by pledge tiers, like buttons, polls, groups, trophy/achievement systems, video/media upload section the lot but most of it was either ignored and unused or maniplulated/abused for points which lead to very poor quality content, posts, and arguements, it has been much better since we removed those systems... For what it's worth, removing the like button has actually shown an increase in interaction and engagement, since people actually reply with a post if they like something to agree with it or thank the person for making it instead of just pushing a like button and moving on and I think with this community and everyone wanting to get back to basics and old school socialisation that this is a better fit for us removing that button which proved to be correct.
That...that just seems like a REALLY lazy excuse to me...How was a voting system manipulated if you have to pay to be on the forums here? For the "just pushing a like button and moving on", the old saying comes to mind "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" Same with being positive, if yuou have nothing to add to a topic, then don't say anything to take away from said topic. If peopel were abusing it for points and whatever, why not just take away the points and nothing else. I'm still trying to figure out how the systems were being abused and how they discouraged socialization. Every forum I have been on has these, minus the points and they still have either heated debates or massive posts about thoughts and theories with critical discussion. This just seems so...I don't know...a very stupid reason. Hell, even on my crochet forum we still have massive discussions as well as this system in place and it's a WAY bigger community than here...and I don't have to pay to be apart of it.
Sorry, I'm not directing it at you, mainly just very leery about the answer...and I honestly don't believe it. I know that's not your fault, so please don't take it personally, It's just very odd to me is all; especially considering you have to pay...what, 15-20$ to be on the forums alone? It just seems...disingenuous and it feels like it's not true...but for what reason I don't know..though thank you for finding the quote. Was that in a thread somewhere or was that in a newsletter? I'm curious to see the rest of it lol.
Thumbs up/down would go a LONG LONG way. A lot of needless back and forth happens because there is no like/dislike feature. Facebook intentionally has no "dislike" button because it promotes people to voice the disagreeing opinion... which for Facebook generates more Ad views/revenue, but here it just creates animosity and negative remarks.
Having to "quote" someone, and then post a comment instead of giving a simple "like" really makes some of the topics "TLDR" and people just read the first and last post and miss a lot of potentially important information.
Spell check would be great too.
Brooks said:There are a lot of posts and discussions. As a result, it can be difficult to shift through. What responses do people like and agree with? Which ones do they not like? It would be cool if we could get a thumbs up or down, or add polls to our posts so we know what percentage of the community agrees with the post.
Welcome to 3 years ago.