Porting Taxi Services are good for everyone. And instant transporting methods for not teleportation is bad for everyone.
I don't think instant porting should be added later. It would be nice if we where allowed to form our own taxi service as permanent role in the community.
I argue here today that, Porting Taxi Services are a key element of the retro good times people harken for when looking at Classic EQ what was right and what went wrong.
Imagine how I felt with Planes of Power stones. I had a druid that ported for years, was well known doing such, lots of friends and helping each other then one day all of the circles and pyramids where empty. Like life got sucked out of EQ1 and as if a bunch of kids got off a schoolbus screaming gimmie now, instant gratification no work click the stone, get bored faster and log out quicker.
You're not the only one that feels this way. See these threads:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3614/will-there-be-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2856/just-say-quot-no-quot-to-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2542/so-quick-travel
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4071/fast-travel-spells
Bazgrim said:You're not the only one that feels this way. See these threads:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3614/will-there-be-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2856/just-say-quot-no-quot-to-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2542/so-quick-travel
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4071/fast-travel-spells
Yes, I wanted to make a more specific point on that, if we get Taxi I want it to stay in the game and not be removed. I generally try to use existing threads. Not that I am someone special but I did do the EQ2 page at Castersrealm so I hope you didn't think I am lazy noob or something lol.
i wonder if anyone feels that way who did not play a porter. i never did and i liked the pop books. i do understand that you had a problem if porting was your life. but that seems very strange to me. it's very likely that some sort of fast travel will be added as the world grows. otherwise the troubles of non-porters increase continously. so this time you should at least anticipate it.
Vash said:Bazgrim said:You're not the only one that feels this way. See these threads:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3614/will-there-be-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2856/just-say-quot-no-quot-to-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2542/so-quick-travel
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4071/fast-travel-spells
Yes, I wanted to make a more specific point on that, if we get Taxi I want it to stay in the game and not be removed. I generally try to use existing threads. Not that I am someone special but I did do the EQ2 page at Castersrealm so I hope you didn't think I am lazy noob or something lol.
Haha well I never know if someone searched unless they say so. Plus, there may be other lurkers that benefit from those links as well. But I never really thought you were lazy. I'm just saying threads don't have to be that specific. Your point is a fair one and I think it would fit well in any of the threads I linked. It's easier for the devs to find the info they want if it's all in one or two threads :)
I never really played a porter in EQ1, and I played the game for years from the beginning. I felt that adding the PoK books cheapened the game quite a bit myself. I had no problems asking people for ports when I needed one, just as people would ask me to summon their corpses, or rez their corpses, or give them clarity (depending on which characters I was on at the time). It was just another service people wanted and would ask for.
Bazgrim said:Vash said:Bazgrim said:You're not the only one that feels this way. See these threads:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3614/will-there-be-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2856/just-say-quot-no-quot-to-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2542/so-quick-travel
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4071/fast-travel-spells
Yes, I wanted to make a more specific point on that, if we get Taxi I want it to stay in the game and not be removed. I generally try to use existing threads. Not that I am someone special but I did do the EQ2 page at Castersrealm so I hope you didn't think I am lazy noob or something lol.
Haha well I never know if someone searched unless they say so. Plus, there may be other lurkers that benefit from those links as well. But I never really thought you were lazy. I'm just saying threads don't have to be that specific. Your point is a fair one and I think it would fit well in any of the threads I linked. It's easier for the devs to find the info they want if it's all in one or two threads :)
No worries, back on the EQ1 SOE forum I had like the original 25+ page thread asking for Classic, I think it was titled like "I just want a cheeseburger" lol.
People called me lots of names and idiot for pushing classic. I was one of the handful of customers that started this all at least from the demand side.
Speaking in absolutes about what is and isn't good for the game is just silly.
Depending on other players heavily for long distance transportation causes a few problems.
To start, if you give strong utility like that to only select classes, you have to reduce their effectiveness in other areas, otherwise they invalidate a significant portion of the roster. Druids were a terrible class in classic EQ. They were mediocre heals, and DPS. The only thing they could excel at was kiting, and there were better classes for that purpose as well. Wizards did a bit too much damage but I'd say the fact that they're absurdly boring to play for most people offset that.
If Druids could heal as well as a Cleric or DPS as well as any other given DPS, or perform at a high level in any given role really, you've just invalidated every class of that role on the roster because there is an obvious choice with an overpowered transportation method.
Secondly, what do you do if you can't find a player to teleport you at a given time? Guess it's time to log out of the game, because it's practically impossible to get to my destination without a port. Encouraging people to actively not play the game by depriving them of something as simple as transportation is really bad design, in my opinion.
I don't think you need to be able to instantly warp to any region of the game instantly. However, I think something along the lines of The Nexus should exist at the very least to alleviate the aforementioned problems.
Liav said:If Druids could heal as well as a Cleric or DPS as well as any other given DPS, or perform at a high level in any given role really, you've just invalidated every class of that role on the roster because there is an obvious choice with an overpowered transportation method.
Secondly, what do you do if you can't find a player to teleport you at a given time? Guess it's time to log out of the game, because it's practically impossible to get to my destination without a port. Encouraging people to actively not play the game by depriving them of something as simple as transportation is really bad design, in my opinion.
I don't think you need to be able to instantly warp to any region of the game instantly. However, I think something along the lines of The Nexus should exist at the very least to alleviate the aforementioned problems.
Yes but in that instance Clerics were the best healers hands down AND they were the only ones with (max xp) ressurection spells, which I'd argue XP Rez > Teleports any day of the week.
If you can't find a player to teleport you, you make the trip on foot until you DO find a port or you make it to your destination. That isn't the same as encouraging people to not play. Though in this day and age I imagine every server will have a "taxi" guild of players making loads of money just porting around all day.
Bazgrim said:You're not the only one that feels this way. See these threads:
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/3614/will-there-be-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2856/just-say-quot-no-quot-to-ports
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/2542/so-quick-travel
https://www.pantheonmmo.com/content/forums/topic/4071/fast-travel-spells
Thanks Baz :)
I will have to close this folks, this is identical to other threads and I need to keep the information consolidated so it is easy to find and read, not spread out all over the place, thanks for understanding :)
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