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Are humans boring?

    • 228 posts
    October 1, 2016 1:05 PM PDT

    I watched VOT 'Humans' this morning and have to say the topic was very interesting. I found some of the ideas shared there to be very much the opposite of boring.

    I especially enjoyed the idea of humans being able to start in almost any racial starting area, while taking a hit in faction, but possibly gaining skills usually deemed only for that race. Cool idea. May not get implimented, but cool none-the-less.

    • 11 posts
    January 25, 2017 3:33 PM PST
    Hopefully you guys can think of something cool for Humans. In most games it's the same. They are the vanilla race with no exciting abilities. Of course you can't really give them wings or anything, everyone will go "nuh uh!", but think of something unique please :D
    • 1017 posts
    January 25, 2017 6:30 PM PST

    I don't think they're boring.  I don't need any extra reasons to play humans, but if the team wants to give me some I'm okay with that.  Haha.

    • 243 posts
    January 28, 2017 9:37 AM PST

    It might be interesting to see humans have a inate ability for resource gathering and as a result take a small hit to native like factions.   We are known for being resource mongers in the real world afterall. Maybe this would include giving humans one or two more of a resource gathered as the pro in this scenario.

    • 1017 posts
    January 28, 2017 9:54 AM PST

    Gamerchick said:

    It might be interesting to see humans have a inate ability for resource gathering and as a result take a small hit to native like factions.   We are known for being resource mongers in the real world afterall. Maybe this would include giving humans one or two more of a resource gathered as the pro in this scenario.

     

    That's true.  We do tend to ruin things.  Could have the elves not like us because we destroy their lands.  I don't know if having humans be better at harvesting and gathering everything would balance very well, though.  Also, since that's based on reality, I don't think it would really make humans less 'boring' in a fantasy setting.

    • 398 posts
    January 28, 2017 11:27 AM PST

    Humans are fine as is.  If you want pranks, play a halfling.  Feel snooty patootie superior, you're an elf.  Like acrobatics, beards, and beer... be a dwarf.

    Humans have an awesome Lady King, political intrigue, and the glory of Thronefast.  What's not to love?

    • 243 posts
    February 10, 2017 3:27 AM PST

    Shucklighter said:

    Gamerchick said:

    It might be interesting to see humans have a inate ability for resource gathering and as a result take a small hit to native like factions.   We are known for being resource mongers in the real world afterall. Maybe this would include giving humans one or two more of a resource gathered as the pro in this scenario.

     

    That's true.  We do tend to ruin things.  Could have the elves not like us because we destroy their lands.  I don't know if having humans be better at harvesting and gathering everything would balance very well, though.  Also, since that's based on reality, I don't think it would really make humans less 'boring' in a fantasy setting.

    You know what you're right, and I have been thinking about this.

    Humans are actually pretty complicated, we are dual in nature sometimes we are nurturing and kind and other times we are destructive and cruel.  Maybe humans could be seperated by faction in goodvsevil, and that faction would effect what human cities we are allowed to be in, maybe it might also slightly change our appearance.  Maybe it might affect the weapons and spells we use as well. Some food for thought.

    • 176 posts
    February 16, 2017 1:42 PM PST

    I guess I might as well jump onto this conversation as well. It is pretty obvious this is the least talked about class. I certainly wasn't expecting to be a human - but I guess that's where i'm going to end up.

    • 398 posts
    February 16, 2017 10:19 PM PST

    You almost sound depressed Verdic.  Why so glum, chum?  Humans have great history.  King Amensol and Havensong of old, Avendyr and Thronefast after the Deicide War.  Not to mention our Lady King Amenthiel In the modern era.  Rejoice in your human-ness.  The Myr are gonna smell fishy, Ogres will get jammed up in doorways, and you just know those gnome encounter suits are going to explode at some point!

    EDIT: Just read your post on Pantheon Role Players site, nice backstory.  So human paladin then?  Was your original intent to be an elf?  Just curious.  Welcome to the human race ;)


    This post was edited by Kumu at February 17, 2017 4:54 AM PST
    • 176 posts
    February 17, 2017 6:34 AM PST

    I've always been an Elf/Wood-Elf Paladin in EQ, EQ2, and Vanguard. So yeah, pretty depressed. But i'll keep pushing for PLD class to be the best it can be. So I guess that means I have to hope that Humans get a fair shake in this game.

     

    Kumu said:

    You almost sound depressed Verdic.  Why so glum, chum?  Humans have great history.  King Amensol and Havensong of old, Avendyr and Thronefast after the Deicide War.  Not to mention our Lady King Amenthiel In the modern era.  Rejoice in your human-ness.  The Myr are gonna smell fishy, Ogres will get jammed up in doorways, and you just know those gnome encounter suits are going to explode at some point!

    EDIT: Just read your post on Pantheon Role Players site, nice backstory.  So human paladin then?  Was your original intent to be an elf?  Just curious.  Welcome to the human race ;)

    • 31 posts
    March 9, 2017 9:22 PM PST

    I have played a human warrior in everquest since 1999,  Always seems to be the racial type (aside from Barbarian which is human lore wise in eq terms).  

    Most likely start as a human warrior here too. but one thing could change all that.  I am interested in seeing their back story more.  Under what conditions have they come here?   What does their leadership Intend to accomplish?   Are they a bunch of goobers?   Stuff like that.  A races back story can be a deciding factor here.  A human can be boring sure.  Some can be interesting as hell thou!!! 

    • 398 posts
    March 10, 2017 5:38 AM PST

    Amenthiel a "goober"!!? Perish the thought. Our Lady King is a worthy descendant of Amensol's line.

    Granted the lore does hint that corruption has crept into the glory that is Thronefast, but that just means we will have plenty of evil goobers to eliminate.  In our spare time let's start an underwater salvage company (um, I mean historical restoration society) to recover much of Havensong that was lost from the ocean floor and rebuild that jewel, no goobers allowed.  The Dark Myr will probably object (violently), but then fish are finicky.

    • 3 posts
    March 13, 2017 7:42 AM PDT

    I'll have to see how much of a factor race plays in getting a raid spot, but I will probably go with either dwarf or human depending on how female dwarves look. Although I like how elves and dark myr look so far as well. :P

    • 43 posts
    March 13, 2017 12:52 PM PDT

    I'll more then likely will play a human female shaman in Pantheon, but would prefer a sub-sect of the Barbarian personally. Since the sub-sect isn't a option (at the moment), I hope in character creation I can make it look close to a Barbarian with tatoos or Viking like appearances. Character creation to me in shaping how I will play my character which means adjustments in body features is important and to select my chosen game names. In World of Warcraft, I went with Orcs because I didn't like playing in the Alliance and didn't like the other races in the Horde. When I went to Star Wars: The Old Republic, I played a light-side Zabrak for the Empire because of my fashionation of Darth Maul (I really need to be checked into a mental hospital if you seen my collection).

     

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    Robert A. Frederick Jr.

    • 664 posts
    March 13, 2017 9:03 PM PDT

    I always play a human typically, but the other races in Pantheon are looking pretty sweet, making it tough to play one.  So in this case, nice job on design VR, making this decision much more difficult.

    • 1017 posts
    March 14, 2017 1:05 AM PDT

    Pyye said:

    I always play a human typically, but the other races in Pantheon are looking pretty sweet, making it tough to play one.  So in this case, nice job on design VR, making this decision much more difficult.

     

    Very true.  I'm particularly tempted by the Ogres.  I just think they look great.  If I end up playing a Warrior (unlikely, but possible), I'll have a hell of a time deciding between Human and Ogre.  In the end, it would probably be the Human, though, because to me humans are more exciting.  Haha.

    • 2247 posts
    March 14, 2017 7:24 AM PDT

    I do think humans are pretty boring, but at the same time, in most games I'll make an alt that closely resembles me in real life just for the heck of it... usually either a Human Monk or Bard. In Pantheon, it will probably be a Monk. I'm sure it'll be a pretty powerful race/class combo and I feel like doing due diligence to get a taste of everything the game has to offer. But I highly doubt it'll be toward the top of my list of exciting things in the game :P

    • 176 posts
    March 16, 2017 6:22 AM PDT

    Kumu said:

    Amenthiel a "goober"!!? Perish the thought. Our Lady King is a worthy descendant of Amensol's line.

    Granted the lore does hint that corruption has crept into the glory that is Thronefast, but that just means we will have plenty of evil goobers to eliminate.  In our spare time let's start an underwater salvage company (um, I mean historical restoration society) to recover much of Havensong that was lost from the ocean floor and rebuild that jewel, no goobers allowed.  The Dark Myr will probably object (violently), but then fish are finicky.

     

    You mean just like Kyle Bayle and Lucan D'lere? XD

    • 398 posts
    March 17, 2017 5:15 AM PDT

    Exactly, Verdic.  Factions, political intrigue, scheming...in a word: humans!

    • 279 posts
    April 3, 2017 2:23 AM PDT

    yes, humans are boring. They are the base race. It's like a main character without personality strengths/flaws.

     

    They can be every class though, and lots of people agree making that boring human is cool just because we can relate to them best. Not to call us boring...We just understand ourselves too well. Nothing new here.

    • 152 posts
    April 3, 2017 10:44 PM PDT

    Even though it seems like Humans would be boring, I was surprised to find how intriguing they were in EQ. Probably mostly because of their contrast with other races' societies. They're interesting, with their castles, politics, marketplaces, culture.

    Also, I think the Human Dark Knight archetype, Dire Lord in this case, of course, is very interesting. Perhaps a bit more interesting than playing that class as an evil race. I also liked the Erudite SK in EQ..

    Edit: I just had a funny thought thinking if VR were to "reimagine" the Humans as they've done the Gnomes. Because, hey, it's Pantheon! And so the Humans became different from us, humans. Ridiculous, but could've been a good April 1st announcement! Hah.


    This post was edited by Alexander at April 3, 2017 10:54 PM PDT
    • 152 posts
    April 18, 2017 11:05 AM PDT

    I love human characters and I don't know why.

     

    I want to play a Dwarf and I will...But Odds are my main will end up being some human tank or healer...Im really leaning towards Male Human Warrior.

    • 49 posts
    May 24, 2017 12:48 PM PDT

    I'm bored when it comes to normal races.

    I live as a human on a daily basis. Unless I'm dreaming. ;)

    Hence I always go for a clearly different race!

    • 398 posts
    May 25, 2017 5:19 AM PDT

    Nothing wrong with that Nore, variety is the spice of life.

    I just refuse to accept the "humans are boring" trope.  Look at their lore in Pantheon.  They build communities, share their knowledge and culture freely, don't seek to dominate neighbors.  Without Avendyr Terminus would be a very different world today.  Look at Thronefast - what a marvel of architecture and engineering.  And let's not forget the political intrigue - it would appear things are stirring behind the scenes in the court of The Lady King Amenthiel.

    Think us 'normal', think us 'typical', think us 'familiar', but never think us boring.

    Humans rock!  (Especially their bards)


    This post was edited by Kumu at May 25, 2017 5:21 AM PDT