VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
If you want a personal opinion only, definitely not in 2020 and no more than a 'maybe' in 2021.
First post? Nice. Coming out strong. Slightly uneducated, but brazen to say the least.
*edit* Welcome to the forums.
Jothany said:VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
That is only recently. They gave us date estimates multiple times in the past. Those dates were not met so that is the reason for the recent trend of not wanting to commit to a timeline.
Realistically no one knows the answer to this outside the VR team. VR has stated that there are still one to two more rounds of pre-alpha testing planned, with the hopes that the next round will be the last before alpha testing provided everything goes as planned.
If I had to make a guess I would say the game will probably be in an alpha testing phase for at least 6 months to a year (maybe slightly longer) before it goes into beta testing. Right now VR's goals seem to be getting all the systems in place before alpha. My guess is that Alpha will be used to finetune numbers, identify bugs, stress test the servers, and identify potentially negative aspects of the systems in place, as well as anything that could be exploited.
If I had to make an educated guess regarding the time frame based on the hypothetical that there is only one more pre-alpha phase and that phase starts in Febuary/ March of 2020. I would say that alpha may start somewhere between June to December of next year, and then BETA will launch fall/winter of 2021.
The best way to stay informed is to keep an eye on the streams/ newsletters that they do. Usually, these are where the major announcements will appear at first.
philo said:Jothany said:VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
That is only recently. They gave us date estimates multiple times in the past. Those dates were not met so that is the reason for the recent trend of not wanting to commit to a timeline.
Honestly I'd much prefer to have estimated dates for certain milestones. Anyone with at least half a brain and minimal knowledge of gaming and game develompent will know that those dates most likely won't be met (not by a long shot) - especially that VR is rather small developer (in terms of quantity, but EPIC otherwise!) and without publisher that would stay behind them with a whip and demand meeting the timelines at the cost of quality. Having these dates would give us something to look out for and would shut mouths of those constantly asking for release date. VR could even write down below them some funny comment like "How much will you bet, that these dates won't be met?" with the link to pledge site ;-)
Hegenox said:philo said:Jothany said:VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
That is only recently. They gave us date estimates multiple times in the past. Those dates were not met so that is the reason for the recent trend of not wanting to commit to a timeline.
Honestly I'd much prefer to have estimated dates for certain milestones. Anyone with at least half a brain and minimal knowledge of gaming and game develompent will know that those dates most likely won't be met (not by a long shot) - especially that VR is rather small developer (in terms of quantity, but EPIC otherwise!) and without publisher that would stay behind them with a whip and demand meeting the timelines at the cost of quality. Having these dates would give us something to look out for and would shut mouths of those constantly asking for release date. VR could even write down below them some funny comment like "How much will you bet, that these dates won't be met?" with the link to pledge site ;-)
I mean I understand VR not wanting to release timelines. People tend to be idiots who lack the ability to critically think and are easily infected by negativity. All it would take is a couple of pushed back timelines for the troll community to really take off, start spouting their usual nonsense, and the usual upbeat people to slowly start jumping on the bandwagon as well. I'm sure that when the game starts pushing into alpha timelines and milestones are going to be lot more transparent and clearly stated.
Baldur said:Hegenox said:philo said:Jothany said:VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
That is only recently. They gave us date estimates multiple times in the past. Those dates were not met so that is the reason for the recent trend of not wanting to commit to a timeline.
Honestly I'd much prefer to have estimated dates for certain milestones. Anyone with at least half a brain and minimal knowledge of gaming and game develompent will know that those dates most likely won't be met (not by a long shot) - especially that VR is rather small developer (in terms of quantity, but EPIC otherwise!) and without publisher that would stay behind them with a whip and demand meeting the timelines at the cost of quality. Having these dates would give us something to look out for and would shut mouths of those constantly asking for release date. VR could even write down below them some funny comment like "How much will you bet, that these dates won't be met?" with the link to pledge site ;-)
I mean I understand VR not wanting to release timelines. People tend to be idiots who lack the ability to critically think and are easily infected by negativity. All it would take is a couple of pushed back timelines for the troll community to really take off, start spouting their usual nonsense, and the usual upbeat people to slowly start jumping on the bandwagon as well. I'm sure that when the game starts pushing into alpha timelines and milestones are going to be lot more transparent and clearly stated.
Thing is - "haters gonna hate" regardless of what will be done, besides Pantheons target is a niche and at least I like to think that it's a niche of people smart enough to look beyond what a bunch of trolls is saying and able to judge for themselves.
philo said:Jothany said:VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
That is only recently. They gave us date estimates multiple times in the past. Those dates were not met so that is the reason for the recent trend of not wanting to commit to a timeline.
So would you know the most recent deadline for Alphla, Beta or Release that was given by the Devs?
Jothany said:philo said:Jothany said:VR has a policy of not releasing target dates for major events like Alpha, Beta or Release.
That is only recently. They gave us date estimates multiple times in the past. Those dates were not met so that is the reason for the recent trend of not wanting to commit to a timeline.
So would you know the most recent deadline for Alphla, Beta or Release that was given by the Devs?
2016
This was just released earlier this month and the section on "State of the Game" gives us the best possible picture,to date.
http://www.pantheonmmo.com/newsletter/2019_december_producers_letter/
The main part to note is
"What’s left before we open up PA5? This list is a lot shorter. The living codex that governs the spell and ability system is in progress."
Once living codex is in a working state they will open PA5. The only one that can predict how long PA5 will take is the person that can predict how many bugs they will find in each of the (I count somewhere over 15 new system being implemented) and then also predict how long it will take to correct each of those (yet unknown in number or severity) bugs.
THAT'S how long PA5 will take ....
and then they will decide and let us know if they need a PA6.
